December 3, 2004 Harley Schlanger interviews Executive Intelligence Review magazines Russia and Eastern Europe editor Rachel Douglas for the November 27 LaRouche Connection radio show. The subject is Ukraine as it was about 10 years ago, combined with a longer view of what happened after the collapse of the Soviet Union and the two directions that could have been taken with LaRouche's productive triangle proposal as agreed to by leaders like Duetchbank head Alfred Herhaussen, or the way it went under the Shock Therapy of Jefferey Sachs and the economic hitmen.