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Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.66,0:01:21.58,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}As Head of the Shin Bet,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.67,0:01:26.51,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}you learn that politicians prefer binary options. 
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.21,0:01:30.55,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They don't like having three or four options. 
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.63,0:01:32.67,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They want you to tell them, "Zero or one." 
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.76,0:01:34.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"Do it. Don't do it." 
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.73,0:01:41.36,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}As a commander, I find myself 
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.56,0:01:46.61,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}in situations that are different shades of gray. 
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.15,0:01:54.86,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Let's say you're hunting a terrorist. 
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.70,0:01:57.29,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You can get him, 
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.79,0:02:02.04,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}but there are one or two people in the car. 
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.08,0:02:08.67,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You're not sure if they're part of his gang or not. 
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.38,0:02:13.97,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}What do you do? Do you fire or not?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.64,0:02:23.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}There's no time. 
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.73,0:02:29.74,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}These situations last seconds, minutes at most. 
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.07,0:02:35.41,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}People expect a decision, 
Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.95,0:02:39.79,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and by decision they usually mean "to act."
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.87,0:02:41.37,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}That's a decision.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.45,0:02:45.70,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"Don't do it" seems easier, but it's often harder.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.39,0:03:00.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Sometimes it's a super-clean operation.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.52,0:03:03.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}No one was hurt except the terrorists.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.94,0:03:09.03,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Even then, later, life stops,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.11,0:03:11.70,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}at night, in the day, when you're shaving.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.78,0:03:17.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We all have our moments. On vacation...
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.66,0:03:23.91,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You say, "Okay, 
Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.41,0:03:26.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"I made a decision 
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.75,0:03:30.71,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"and X number of people were killed. 
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.80,0:03:34.89,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"They were definitely about to launch a big attack." 
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.26,0:03:42.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}No one near them was hurt. It was as sterile as possible.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.60,0:03:44.31,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Yet you still say,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.98,0:03:47.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"There's something unnatural about it."
Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.44,0:03:52.61,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}What's unnatural is the power you have
Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.03,0:03:55.95,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}to take three people, terrorists,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.03,0:03:59.28,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and take their lives in an instant.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.28,0:05:20.37,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}How old were you during the Six Day War? 
Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.28,0:05:23.49,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I was 11. 
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.37,0:05:29.54,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I remember thinking, "What is war?"
Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.75,0:05:31.63,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It's hard to say if I really understood,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.71,0:05:36.51,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}but I remember the feeling
Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.59,0:05:39.84,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}of fear, because our situation was bad.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.93,0:05:49.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Most of all I remember a book. 
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.27,0:05:55.11,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I read it  a {\i1}lot, If Israel Lost the War. 
Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.57,0:05:59.12,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It described a very unpleasant scenario
Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.65,0:06:02.40,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}of us losing the war 
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.49,0:06:06.58,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and the Arabs conquering Israel. 
Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.04,0:06:13.75,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It had a profound impact on me.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.83,0:06:16.21,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I thought about it a lot as a boy.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.70,0:06:53.45,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}In the Six Day War, I was in Operations. 
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.67,0:06:56.42,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The Arabs surrendered
Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.79,0:06:59.83,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and we were suddenly left without an enemy.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.30,0:07:06.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You're like a dog in a race, looking for the rabbit.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.43,0:07:12.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The rabbit goes underground, and the dog can't find it.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.10,0:07:14.85,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We were like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.23,0:07:19.53,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Then we started working in the West Bank and Gaza
Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.69,0:07:24.03,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}in anti-terrorism, without knowing exactly what it was
Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.11,0:07:25.69,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}because terrorism hadn't developed.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.92,0:07:40.05,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We decided to conduct a census in the Territories 
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.13,0:07:43.22,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}to find out how many people lived in the refugee camps. 
Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.97,0:07:48.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It was important. We used the information for years. 
Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.47,0:07:50.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}But you know how it is.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.81,0:07:53.65,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They called up the reserves and trained them quickly.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.85,0:07:56.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}What do I mean by quickly? You knock on the door.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.77,0:07:59.90,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They ask, "Who's there?" You say, "Soldiers."
Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.07,0:08:04.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"What do you want?" "We came to count you."
Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.40,0:08:06.28,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}That's it. How many words?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.36,0:08:08.07,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It's nothing. Ten words.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.83,0:08:14.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The reservist unit comes and knocks on the door. 
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.04,0:08:17.75,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They ask, "Who's there?" What do the soldiers say?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.83,0:08:19.42,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"Soldiers," like they learned. 
Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.00,0:08:21.92,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"What do you want?"
Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.00,0:08:24.54,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}But they made a mistake.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.63,0:08:29.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Instead of saying nehsikum with an unaccented
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.72,0:08:31.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}they used an accented
Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.26,0:08:32.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}What's the difference?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.43,0:08:36.31,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"Jinna nehsikum" means "We came  to {\i1}count  you."
Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.39,0:08:39.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"Jinna nekhsikum" with an accent is "We came to castrate you."
Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.82,0:08:50.95,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We took intensive courses in spoken and literary Arabic, 
Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.03,0:08:54.03,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}reading articles and manuscripts. 
Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.79,0:08:58.54,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Anyone who took the Shin Bet's Arabic program seriously
Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.75,0:09:00.71,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}knows Arabic.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.79,0:09:03.75,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He can listen to Arabic and read between the lines.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.17,0:09:06.30,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He can read notes from agents...
Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.68,0:09:16.02,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The Shin Bet looked for people to talk to 
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.10,0:09:20.61,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}to understand what motivated the Palestinians. 
Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.19,0:09:27.49,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}For the first time, some Jews raised
Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.57,0:09:30.62,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}the idea of a Palestinian state.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.20,0:09:33.54,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I loved the idea,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.16,0:09:36.91,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}so I went to the Territories with people 
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.99,0:09:39.58,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}who dealt with the Palestinians. 
Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.71,0:09:47.17,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We didn't know what we wanted to achieve. 
Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.63,0:09:52.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We received no direction about our objectives.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.43,0:09:54.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}When you don't get direction from the politicians,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.05,0:09:59.47,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}you are... just like with the rabbit... searching.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.86,0:10:10.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I started as a coordinator in the Nablus district. 
Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.95,0:10:14.95,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It was a very pretty area, full of olive trees. 
Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.28,0:10:21.37,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I liked to get out of my car and wander
Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.46,0:10:24.59,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}in the field, refugee camps, alleyways,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.67,0:10:30.43,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}visit homes, sit in cafés, talk...
Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.51,0:10:34.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I really loved the interaction with the people.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.39,0:10:39.19,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}From that exotic encounter with olive trees,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.27,0:10:41.23,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}landscapes, and peasants,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.56,0:10:45.02,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I found myself at the center of the Palestinian problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.23,0:10:47.15,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I was working in the refugee camps.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.61,0:10:51.49,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Suddenly you see what refugees are. 
Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.90,0:10:56.70,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Once you look more deeply, you say, "Wait. 
Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.78,0:11:00.99,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"I'm not an observer, here to take photos and leave. 
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.08,0:11:03.75,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"I'm an active participant." 
Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.67,0:11:13.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}At first, your security role is all you care about.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.47,0:11:15.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It's easier to be on that side.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.14,0:11:20.27,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}A curfew was placed on the casbah of Hebron, 
Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.51,0:11:24.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}where one Israeli soldier was killed and another wounded. 
Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.35,0:11:28.02,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The two were on patrol when shots were heard. 
Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.11,0:11:32.07,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}One was wounded. The other chased after the shooters. 
Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.32,0:11:35.53,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He was later found murdered here. 
Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.64,0:12:04.65,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Gradually there was an increase... To put it cynically,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.85,0:12:07.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}luckily for us, terrorism increased.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.31,0:12:11.65,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Why do I say that?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.73,0:12:15.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Because now we had work
Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.57,0:12:19.12,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and we stopped dealing with the Palestinian state.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.37,0:12:22.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}- Understand? - Of course.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.91,0:12:26.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}As soon as we stopped dealing with the Palestinian state
Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.75,0:12:28.17,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and started dealing with terrorism,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.25,0:12:30.29,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}terror became more sophisticated. So did we.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.38,0:12:35.80,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Suddenly we had a lot of work in Gaza and the West Bank,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.93,0:12:40.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and overseas, too,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.97,0:12:44.68,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}so we forgot about the Palestinian issue.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.56,0:12:54.06,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}In Nablus then, wherever you threw a rock,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.15,0:12:56.15,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}there was either a cat or a terrorist.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.78,0:13:01.54,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Some nights we arrested hundreds of people.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.88,0:13:22.59,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We'd take over a village 
Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.93,0:13:25.39,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and gather all the men in the square, 
Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.68,0:13:28.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}usually by the mosque or in a schoolyard. 
Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.56,0:13:32.69,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We used the "identifier" technique.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.77,0:13:36.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Terrorists who confessed would be put in a vehicle.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.40,0:13:39.07,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The windows had curtains and they wore masks.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.32,0:13:45.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We'd sit them there, and the villagers passed
Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.16,0:13:47.37,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}beside the vehicle, and they'd tell us,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.45,0:13:50.58,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"He's a terrorist who trained in Syria,"
Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.79,0:13:52.75,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"He's a terrorist who got back from Jordan."
Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.46,0:13:55.92,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Not everyone cooperated, 
Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.00,0:14:00.59,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}but we usually had a good catch. 
Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.10,0:14:10.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Back then, most intelligence was based on HUMINT, 
Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.52,0:14:14.82,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}HUMan INTelligence we got in two ways. 
Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.90,0:14:19.86,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Either from our agents or the interrogation of prisoners. 
Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.29,0:14:30.29,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}On my first day at work,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.25,0:14:36.80,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}the person I was replacing picked me up at home.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.88,0:14:43.22,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He decided that the best place to train an inexperienced security guy like me was
Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.55,0:14:48.14,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}the interrogation facility in Jerusalem.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.35,0:14:50.27,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I started learning intelligence there.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.82,0:15:00.74,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I don't know if you've ever been inside a prison, 
Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.82,0:15:04.91,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}but the one in Jerusalem is the worst that I know. 
Dialogue: 0,0:15:05.24,0:15:08.83,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It's a very old building from the time of the Turks. 
Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.08,0:15:15.67,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}A normal person walks through the door and he's ready to admit to killing Jesus. 
Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.17,0:15:25.97,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You need to make the suspect feel tense. 
Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.05,0:15:30.47,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You need to make him understand
Dialogue: 0,0:15:30.68,0:15:34.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}that when we are done, he will give up his information,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.27,0:15:35.40,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}so the sooner the better.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.15,0:15:39.19,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The Shin Bet has interrogated 
Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.57,0:15:42.99,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}tens of thousands of people, if not hundreds of thousands. 
Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.04,0:15:57.38,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The Shin Bet is a well-oiled system.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:58.42,0:16:03.01,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It's well-organized and effective. It's systematic.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:03.80,0:16:06.47,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You receive a territorial unit 
Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.68,0:16:10.39,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and learn it, village by village, trail by trail, 
Dialogue: 0,0:16:11.14,0:16:13.02,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}whether by field trips 
Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.22,0:16:17.14,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}or lots of interviews with the masses of people who come 
Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.23,0:16:19.19,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}to military government HQ. 
Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.19,0:16:23.07,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You sit with them and ask 
Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.15,0:16:26.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}them to tell you about the village, the clans, 
Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.40,0:16:29.95,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}from the number of people in the village 
Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.03,0:16:32.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}to what institutions it has... 
Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.41,0:16:37.91,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You eventually reach a point 
Dialogue: 0,0:16:38.00,0:16:40.84,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}where you mark who you want to recruit. 
Dialogue: 0,0:16:41.75,0:16:45.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}In the end you know you want X 
Dialogue: 0,0:16:45.09,0:16:48.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}because X's connections, 
Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.80,0:16:53.35,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}his ability to infiltrate places that you want to watch over 
Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.43,0:16:57.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}are such that he's the agent you want to recruit. 
Dialogue: 0,0:16:57.94,0:17:03.78,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Recruiting people means taking someone who
Dialogue: 0,0:17:03.90,0:17:06.11,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}doesn't usually like you
Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.44,0:17:14.45,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and making him do things he never believed he could.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.95,0:17:20.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}To convince someone to betray
Dialogue: 0,0:17:21.13,0:17:26.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}his surroundings, his friends, sometimes his family
Dialogue: 0,0:17:26.76,0:17:29.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}is no small thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:41.98,0:17:45.15,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}All in all, we gained control over the war on terror. 
Dialogue: 0,0:17:46.78,0:17:52.83,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We kept it on a low flame so the country could do what it wanted.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:53.78,0:17:55.12,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}That's important,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:55.95,0:18:01.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}but it didn't solve the problem of the Occupation.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.17,0:18:02.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}What it did was 
Dialogue: 0,0:18:03.04,0:18:07.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}instead of 20 attacks a week, there were 20 a year. 
Dialogue: 0,0:18:17.18,0:18:21.43,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}All in all, no Israeli prime minister 
Dialogue: 0,0:18:21.52,0:18:25.82,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}took the Palestinians into consideration, 
Dialogue: 0,0:18:26.61,0:18:30.95,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}whether they lived within the '67 borders or not.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:33.66,0:18:37.83,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}What's the difference between Golda Meir and Begin? Nothing. 
Dialogue: 0,0:18:38.04,0:18:41.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He didn't visit the Arabs. She didn't either. 
Dialogue: 0,0:18:43.58,0:18:45.62,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}She called herself a Palestinian. 
Dialogue: 0,0:18:45.71,0:18:51.55,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Begin didn't even say that because they weren't important to him. 
Dialogue: 0,0:18:52.42,0:18:56.88,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}In Peres's day, the atmosphere changed, 
Dialogue: 0,0:18:58.26,0:19:01.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}but he did the same things as his predecessors. 
Dialogue: 0,0:19:04.14,0:19:06.10,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}- Continuing the Occupation? - Yes!
Dialogue: 0,0:19:06.19,0:19:12.49,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Peri kept showing us this chart.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:12.57,0:19:16.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}How many people were caught? How many informers were there?
Dialogue: 0,0:19:16.32,0:19:19.53,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}How many attacks were prevented? How many weren't?
Dialogue: 0,0:19:19.62,0:19:21.91,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The picture was always rosy,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.41,0:19:27.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}but it was point-specific. There was no strategy, just tactics.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:56.03,0:19:58.53,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}1982. The Lebanon War. 
Dialogue: 0,0:19:59.70,0:20:01.87,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The IDF entered Lebanon. 
Dialogue: 0,0:20:01.95,0:20:07.75,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The Shin Bet recruited operatives. 
Dialogue: 0,0:20:09.42,0:20:12.97,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}In no time, the Shin Bet controlled Lebanon, 
Dialogue: 0,0:20:13.05,0:20:15.47,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}just like it controlled the West Bank. 
Dialogue: 0,0:20:19.85,0:20:22.14,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Avraham Shalom was head of the Shin Bet. 
Dialogue: 0,0:20:23.81,0:20:29.65,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}After years as the most prominent intelligence agency,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:29.73,0:20:33.19,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}the Mossad was replaced by the Shin Bet.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:33.28,0:20:36.12,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I think that he was
Dialogue: 0,0:20:36.19,0:20:39.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}to Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir and before him, Begin,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:39.53,0:20:44.33,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}the most important person in their security circle.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:46.96,0:20:51.42,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I think what happened to him was that he felt he could do whatever he wanted.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:52.79,0:20:55.50,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}People weren't in awe of Avraham Shalom. They were afraid of him. 
Dialogue: 0,0:20:55.59,0:20:56.97,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They were scared of him. 
Dialogue: 0,0:20:57.17,0:21:01.84,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He was strong, forceful, smart, 
Dialogue: 0,0:21:02.35,0:21:08.27,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}very stubborn, uncompromising and a bully.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:08.35,0:21:13.10,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}If he didn't like something, heads would roll.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:37.42,0:21:40.88,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I was in Jerusalem when the 300 bus incident occurred. 
Dialogue: 0,0:21:41.59,0:21:45.68,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The Chief of Central Command called me on the hotline.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:46.14,0:21:51.73,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}A bus going south from Tel Aviv was hijacked
Dialogue: 0,0:21:52.02,0:21:54.31,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and headed to Gaza. 
Dialogue: 0,0:21:54.40,0:21:59.03,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}There was a chase with helicopters. 
Dialogue: 0,0:22:00.70,0:22:07.67,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The bus stopped just outside my district.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:09.12,0:22:15.13,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They called that morning to say that they stormed the bus
Dialogue: 0,0:22:15.21,0:22:20.59,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and two terrorists were taken to interrogation.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:21.63,0:22:26.05,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I turned on the news and heard that all the terrorists were killed.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:26.47,0:22:30.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I told my wife that something stinks here.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:32.94,0:22:35.61,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Please describe what happened that evening.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:36.27,0:22:40.23,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You got a call and were told a bus was hijacked?
Dialogue: 0,0:22:42.86,0:22:44.74,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I don't remember.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:45.41,0:22:48.25,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}- I was in Haifa. - Yes, and...
Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.66,0:22:56.37,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They said, "A bus was hijacked. Come." So I went.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:16.87,0:24:24.55,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"The Terrorist Beaten to Death by the Security Forces"
Dialogue: 0,0:24:25.72,0:24:27.51,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The army handled it.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:28.47,0:24:32.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}During the operation,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:33.35,0:24:38.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}they killed two, and two came out unharmed.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:39.65,0:24:41.19,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I didn't know that then.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:45.74,0:24:47.83,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They beat the daylights out of them,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:49.03,0:24:50.57,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}the two of them.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:51.49,0:24:53.20,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}So the Shin Bet took them...
Dialogue: 0,0:24:54.20,0:25:00.04,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I asked Ehud, the Head of Operations,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:03.17,0:25:04.67,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}what state were they in.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:04.75,0:25:08.17,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He said they were almost dead. Maybe the soldiers said so.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:08.59,0:25:11.93,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}So I said, "Hit them again and finish it."
Dialogue: 0,0:25:12.26,0:25:13.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He didn't do that.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:14.14,0:25:15.77,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He did what he described,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:16.02,0:25:21.11,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}-which I found out a year later. - What did he do?
Dialogue: 0,0:25:21.86,0:25:27.45,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I think he took a rock and smashed their heads in,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:27.78,0:25:31.03,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}but they were unconscious.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:31.36,0:25:34.11,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I don't know what state they were in.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:34.49,0:25:38.87,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The photo showed them before they were beaten up.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:38.96,0:25:41.05,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The army pounced on them.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:43.13,0:25:44.97,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The photo was taken before that.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:45.42,0:25:48.47,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It's not how they looked when we got them.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.72,0:25:50.89,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}How did they look?
Dialogue: 0,0:25:50.97,0:25:55.43,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I don't know, but some thought they were dead.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:57.10,0:26:00.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They broke their bones. it was a lynching.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:02.23,0:26:04.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You didn't physically see them?
Dialogue: 0,0:26:05.57,0:26:06.99,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I didn't see them.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:44.35,0:26:49.19,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We killed a terrorist, whose hands were tied,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:49.78,0:26:51.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}who no longer threatened us.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:52.78,0:26:54.20,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}By What right?
Dialogue: 0,0:26:54.86,0:26:57.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}But in the Shin Bet back then,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:57.33,0:27:00.71,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}there was no such concept as an illegal order.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:04.71,0:27:06.55,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Not only did the Shin Bet fail.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:07.42,0:27:10.38,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The Cabinet and the Prime Minister failed,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:10.76,0:27:13.31,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and to some degree, they oversee the Shin Bet.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:16.47,0:27:17.89,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It's a tough question. 
Dialogue: 0,0:27:19.18,0:27:23.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Did the Prime Minister know about the premeditated murder,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:23.27,0:27:28.40,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}the plan to kill the terrorist caught on the 300 bus?
Dialogue: 0,0:27:28.48,0:27:34.86,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Did the head of Shin Bet have the authority to do that, to make those decisions?
Dialogue: 0,0:27:37.41,0:27:40.58,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Under what circumstances did Shamir give you permission to kill?
Dialogue: 0,0:27:41.79,0:27:45.04,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}There were one or two cases, when I couldn't find him,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:45.12,0:27:46.91,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and it had to be done.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:47.33,0:27:48.58,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}What had to be done?
Dialogue: 0,0:27:49.34,0:27:54.68,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We had to deal with Arabs who were about to launch an attack,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:54.76,0:27:56.60,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}or that launched an attack.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:57.34,0:28:01.76,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He said, "if you can't find me, decide on your own."
Dialogue: 0,0:28:02.68,0:28:04.77,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}When did you realize that you had to resign?
Dialogue: 0,0:28:05.35,0:28:08.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I offered my resignation to Shamir the next day.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:08.65,0:28:10.53,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He said, "Don't you dare."
Dialogue: 0,0:28:11.78,0:28:15.78,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He was afraid that if I resigned, he'd have to resign, too. 
Dialogue: 0,0:28:18.87,0:28:23.04,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He went to Shimon Peres. Rabin was Defense Minister. 
Dialogue: 0,0:28:24.29,0:28:26.88,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He said, "You gave similar permission to kill, 
Dialogue: 0,0:28:27.08,0:28:30.54,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"so if you leave us to the wolves, 
Dialogue: 0,0:28:30.63,0:28:33.05,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"we'll drag you down with us." 
Dialogue: 0,0:28:35.30,0:28:37.97,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They kept telling me what to do and how to respond.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:38.22,0:28:40.47,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I didn't do anything without coordinating it.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:41.35,0:28:46.31,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I never imagined that after a year of coordinating,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:47.19,0:28:52.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}they'd drop the issue and say, "We didn't know."
Dialogue: 0,0:28:55.11,0:28:58.57,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I don't take politicians seriously anymore.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:58.78,0:29:02.95,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}- Because? - Because I saw that they couldn't be trusted.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:03.28,0:29:06.49,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They abandon the wounded in the field. That's not for me.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:06.70,0:29:07.74,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You are the wounded?
Dialogue: 0,0:29:08.50,0:29:10.67,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Notjust me. The whole Shin Bet.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:14.09,0:29:19.97,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The Shin Bet's operatives said, "We're sent on missions 24/7.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:20.05,0:29:24.05,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"Some are of questionable legality. Some are barely legal.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:24.14,0:29:25.60,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"Some are legal.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:26.10,0:29:27.94,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"No one gives us any backing.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:28.85,0:29:35.19,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"As soon as the press finds out about an operation, 
Dialogue: 0,0:29:35.28,0:29:37.49,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"if we don't get any support from the politicians, 
Dialogue: 0,0:29:37.57,0:29:39.45,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"it's a sign that they abandoned us." 
Dialogue: 0,0:29:41.45,0:29:46.29,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"Deal reached: Head of Shin Bet to resign..."
Dialogue: 0,0:29:48.00,0:29:51.21,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The Shin Bet's exposure as a result of the 300 bus incident 
Dialogue: 0,0:29:51.75,0:29:55.75,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and the sense that, "Guys, we're not omnipotent.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:55.84,0:30:00.89,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"There's a legal system above us" began to sink in.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:08.89,0:30:11.81,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Why did you give the order to kill them?
Dialogue: 0,0:30:12.35,0:30:15.23,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I didn't want any more live terrorists in court.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:16.73,0:30:21.03,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It would only increase terrorism. It increased it anyways.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:21.28,0:30:23.87,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Was it right to kill the terrorists on the 300 bus?
Dialogue: 0,0:30:23.95,0:30:26.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Based on the results, no.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:26.74,0:30:29.37,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}- Only because of the results? - Only because of the results.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:30.50,0:30:33.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}So, if there was no reporter, it would be okay?
Dialogue: 0,0:30:34.25,0:30:36.88,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Are you asking me, or are you telling me?
Dialogue: 0,0:30:36.96,0:30:38.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I'm asking you.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:38.21,0:30:41.42,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}If he hadn't come, no one would have known.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:44.68,0:30:46.68,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}What about the morality of it?
Dialogue: 0,0:30:47.72,0:30:52.27,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}With terrorism there are no morals. Find morals in terrorists first.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:53.35,0:30:55.23,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}And if he surrendered?
Dialogue: 0,0:30:55.44,0:30:59.28,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}- It's not a moral problem. - Then what is it?
Dialogue: 0,0:30:59.73,0:31:05.11,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It's a tactical problem, not strategic.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:07.66,0:31:10.58,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}So for you, the decision to kill the two terrorists...
Dialogue: 0,0:31:10.66,0:31:14.04,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You keep painting it black and white. There are decisions that...
Dialogue: 0,0:31:14.12,0:31:16.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Two captured terrorists were killed.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:16.08,0:31:18.37,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Why are you caught up on that?
Dialogue: 0,0:31:18.46,0:31:20.92,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I'm trying to understand the morality of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:21.01,0:31:22.97,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}There is no morality in a case like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:23.05,0:31:25.80,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}In the war against terror, forget about morality.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:25.89,0:31:28.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}When there's a one-ton bomb, forget about morality.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:18.27,0:32:23.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The First Intifada was the charge that blew up this room,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:23.65,0:32:25.15,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}with all the explosives,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:25.24,0:32:27.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}because it occurred spontaneously.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:28.66,0:32:32.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}A nation rose up and tried to launch a revolution, 
Dialogue: 0,0:32:32.49,0:32:33.53,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}to kick us out. 
Dialogue: 0,0:32:53.97,0:32:57.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I was second in command here in the Southern District.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:59.40,0:33:05.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}A wave of mass protests erupted, bigger than anything we'd seen.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:06.28,0:33:09.74,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Hundreds and thousands of people took to the street. 
Dialogue: 0,0:33:09.82,0:33:11.82,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Only live fire could stop them. 
Dialogue: 0,0:33:42.69,0:33:46.78,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The number of people on the Shin Bet's wanted list 
Dialogue: 0,0:33:46.86,0:33:51.28,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}may have been the largest of any intelligence agency anywhere. 
Dialogue: 0,0:33:51.74,0:33:57.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Dozens in every region, hundreds, thousands... 
Dialogue: 0,0:34:08.63,0:34:13.14,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Explain how the Shin Bet, which controlled the territory, 
Dialogue: 0,0:34:13.76,0:34:16.89,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}didn't foresee an insurrection of this magnitude. 
Dialogue: 0,0:34:17.39,0:34:21.14,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}What intelligence agency foresaw the fall of the Berlin Wall? 
Dialogue: 0,0:34:22.31,0:34:27.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}To complain that the Shin Bet should have foreseen it...
Dialogue: 0,0:34:28.15,0:34:31.61,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Formally, in principle, yes, it should have.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:31.70,0:34:33.29,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}That was the expectation.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:33.36,0:34:35.28,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}That's why you operate systems, 
Dialogue: 0,0:34:35.37,0:34:38.79,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}maintain enormous intelligence factories... Correct. 
Dialogue: 0,0:34:39.20,0:34:41.62,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}But you have to tell the truth. 
Dialogue: 0,0:34:41.91,0:34:44.12,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Almost all the intelligence agencies in the world 
Dialogue: 0,0:34:44.33,0:34:49.84,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}failed to foresee major historical events. 
Dialogue: 0,0:34:52.26,0:34:55.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You ask yourself, "Where did I go wrong?"
Dialogue: 0,0:34:55.93,0:34:58.77,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Not in the sense that I rule over them,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:58.85,0:35:01.69,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}but should I have let this happen,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:01.77,0:35:06.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}or should I have left before they said, "Get out."
Dialogue: 0,0:35:07.98,0:35:12.69,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}But those questions are more philosophical than practical.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:12.90,0:35:14.28,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They're the most interesting.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:14.36,0:35:16.78,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Yes, but listen. You can't...
Dialogue: 0,0:35:16.87,0:35:21.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Most of them don't have definitive answers.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:21.16,0:35:22.95,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I don't need definitive answers.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:23.04,0:35:29.51,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}There were plenty of instances since 1967, when, in my opinion,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:30.25,0:35:35.05,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and I thought it then, too,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:35.13,0:35:38.05,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}we should have reached an agreement and got out.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:38.14,0:35:39.77,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Why didn't you say so?
Dialogue: 0,0:35:39.85,0:35:41.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We all have our criticisms,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:41.60,0:35:43.73,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}but it's not within my mandate
Dialogue: 0,0:35:43.81,0:35:47.65,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}to convince the Prime Minister to go to the Palestinians or not.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:47.86,0:35:51.91,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It also depends on who's dealing with the issue.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:52.36,0:35:56.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir never believed 
Dialogue: 0,0:35:56.41,0:35:59.25,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}that an agreement with the Arabs was possible. 
Dialogue: 0,0:35:59.74,0:36:01.87,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Yitzhak Rabin really did believe it. 
Dialogue: 0,0:36:10.92,0:36:14.67,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}If we ever want a serious chance 
Dialogue: 0,0:36:15.09,0:36:18.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}at solving the Palestinian-Israeli problem, 
Dialogue: 0,0:36:18.85,0:36:23.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}the time is now, and the partner is the PLO,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:23.72,0:36:31.60,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}which rid itself of the principles that I despised them for.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:28.04,0:37:31.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}For us, the Oslo Accords erupted in a single day. 
Dialogue: 0,0:37:32.25,0:37:34.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Peri was head of the Shin Bet then.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:35.05,0:37:37.01,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He updated me about Oslo.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:37.42,0:37:41.42,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He said, "Avi, listen. We have to act quickly,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:41.72,0:37:44.35,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"to speak to the PLO's representatives in the field
Dialogue: 0,0:37:44.76,0:37:47.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"and deal with all the suspects
Dialogue: 0,0:37:47.68,0:37:50.39,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"because we can't keep going after PLO suspects
Dialogue: 0,0:37:50.48,0:37:55.69,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"after we sign an agreement in Washington."
Dialogue: 0,0:38:00.49,0:38:04.70,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It was amazing. The first meeting was in Geneva. 
Dialogue: 0,0:38:04.78,0:38:06.87,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Sitting in the lobby was Jibril Rajoub, 
Dialogue: 0,0:38:07.24,0:38:10.74,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and I, not me personally but the Shin Bet,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:10.83,0:38:13.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}put him in prison when he was 16.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:13.54,0:38:15.83,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He sat in prison for 18-20 years.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:16.21,0:38:18.71,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You see that you are meeting people
Dialogue: 0,0:38:18.84,0:38:21.84,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}whose desire for peace and quiet,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:21.93,0:38:23.85,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}whose desire for an agreement
Dialogue: 0,0:38:23.93,0:38:27.39,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}is no less ambitious than yours.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:27.81,0:38:28.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It was very hard for me.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:29.06,0:38:32.06,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I felt like I was doing something that...
Dialogue: 0,0:38:32.52,0:38:35.06,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I couldn't be doing this. I chased after those people.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:35.15,0:38:38.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}How could I sit with terrorists?
Dialogue: 0,0:38:38.48,0:38:40.82,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They killed people.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:40.90,0:38:42.74,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Could I sit down with them?
Dialogue: 0,0:38:43.07,0:38:46.82,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}To them, by the way, I was also a terrorist.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:47.66,0:38:51.50,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}As a Palestinian, he looks at you and says, "You're a terrorist, too."
Dialogue: 0,0:38:51.91,0:38:53.16,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}How can that be?
Dialogue: 0,0:38:53.37,0:38:55.41,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Then you realize that...
Dialogue: 0,0:38:57.75,0:39:01.59,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter."
Dialogue: 0,0:39:05.05,0:39:09.14,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The number one terrorist enemy of Israel
Dialogue: 0,0:39:09.22,0:39:12.27,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}until the day that Arafat entered Gaza
Dialogue: 0,0:39:12.56,0:39:14.06,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}was Fatah, the PLO.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:14.15,0:39:17.45,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}All at once, the PLO left the circle of terror.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:18.73,0:39:22.11,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Hamas and Islamic Jihad filled that vacuum. 
Dialogue: 0,0:39:33.96,0:39:37.21,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We wondered how the Palestinians will function. 
Dialogue: 0,0:39:37.29,0:39:42.71,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}How committed are they to fighting terrorism 
Dialogue: 0,0:39:43.22,0:39:46.31,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}in those areas that they control.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:47.05,0:39:52.43,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We also asked how we could prevent terrorism
Dialogue: 0,0:39:52.52,0:39:54.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}if we no longer control the Territories.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:15.41,0:40:21.75,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The first bus bombing I saw was the 5 bus in 1994. 
Dialogue: 0,0:40:22.30,0:40:25.01,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It was the first suicide bombing in Tel Aviv.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:26.18,0:40:31.31,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I'll never forget it.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:32.52,0:40:37.23,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It was the first time I felt I couldn't isolate myself 
Dialogue: 0,0:40:37.31,0:40:43.36,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}from that sight, from the stench of burning bodies.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:43.86,0:40:45.20,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I'll never forget it.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:45.53,0:40:49.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Later it passed. I saw many other bus attacks.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:56.79,0:40:59.88,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It continued with the horrible attack at the Beit Lid Junction 
Dialogue: 0,0:41:00.58,0:41:04.71,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and the Stock Exchange and the 18 bus in Jerusalem.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:08.51,0:41:11.14,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The feeling in the Shin Bet whenever there's an attack 
Dialogue: 0,0:41:11.22,0:41:12.89,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}that we couldn't prevent
Dialogue: 0,0:41:12.97,0:41:16.06,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}is a horrible sense of failure, disappointment,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:16.31,0:41:19.23,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}especially if the attack is a large one.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:19.44,0:41:21.99,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}There's a real sense of disappointment.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:22.06,0:41:23.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}How did we fail to prevent it?
Dialogue: 0,0:41:24.65,0:41:28.45,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It was the lowest point in the Shin Bet 
Dialogue: 0,0:41:28.53,0:41:33.83,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}that I remember in my 32-33 years in the organization. 
Dialogue: 0,0:41:38.08,0:41:40.75,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}As the suicide attacks increased,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:40.83,0:41:44.88,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}as long as Hamas played the main role in these attacks,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:45.42,0:41:49.01,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}the need to use moderate physical pressure in interrogations increased.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:51.76,0:41:56.77,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Interrogating Hamas and Islamic Jihad is much more difficult. 
Dialogue: 0,0:41:57.39,0:42:00.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Anyone willing to sacrifice his life, 
Dialogue: 0,0:42:00.73,0:42:03.61,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}whether it's for the virgins in paradise or not, 
Dialogue: 0,0:42:04.69,0:42:06.28,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}has nothing to lose. 
Dialogue: 0,0:42:11.70,0:42:16.33,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Things get more complicated with a "ticking time bomb."
Dialogue: 0,0:42:17.49,0:42:22.33,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}it basically means that you have information or a lead
Dialogue: 0,0:42:22.42,0:42:25.42,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}about a possible terrorist attack,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:26.46,0:42:27.79,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}whether suicide or other.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:28.46,0:42:30.63,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}In any event, people will die
Dialogue: 0,0:42:31.47,0:42:35.89,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and the way to find out, "Yes, no, if so, where?"
Dialogue: 0,0:42:35.97,0:42:38.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}lies with the person you're interrogating.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:52.95,0:42:55.79,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You use all sorts of techniques 
Dialogue: 0,0:42:55.87,0:43:01.29,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}that reduce his ability to resist. 
Dialogue: 0,0:43:06.00,0:43:10.80,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The interrogation techniques we were allowed were
Dialogue: 0,0:43:11.51,0:43:13.30,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}sleep deprivation
Dialogue: 0,0:43:14.01,0:43:21.02,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}sitting handcuffed in a painful, degrading, exhausting position. 
Dialogue: 0,0:43:23.60,0:43:26.02,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}What do you get out of covering their heads? 
Dialogue: 0,0:43:26.73,0:43:31.11,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It's pitch black, and you lose your sense of where you are. 
Dialogue: 0,0:43:31.19,0:43:32.53,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You don't know what's around you.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:32.78,0:43:36.28,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You can hear, but you don't know what's there.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:36.37,0:43:37.71,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}And shaking? 
Dialogue: 0,0:43:37.78,0:43:41.03,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Shaking is used to establish presence. 
Dialogue: 0,0:43:41.12,0:43:43.83,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It's threatening. It doesn't hurt. 
Dialogue: 0,0:43:44.96,0:43:48.63,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}What it does is intimidate you.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:48.84,0:43:53.68,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}An interrogator picks you up and shakes you. You feel threatened.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:56.14,0:43:59.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}What happened was that someone named Harizat, 
Dialogue: 0,0:44:00.18,0:44:04.73,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}from Hamas, was a small man and he was shaken. 
Dialogue: 0,0:44:05.73,0:44:08.27,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It was a case of shaken baby syndrome.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:08.36,0:44:11.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}His brain hit his skull and he died as a result.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:11.90,0:44:18.45,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}This resulted in bitter arguments
Dialogue: 0,0:44:18.53,0:44:25.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}between me as head of Shin Bet and Attorney General Michael Ben-Yair,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:25.08,0:44:30.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}who thought it was immoral and unethical.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:31.80,0:44:34.35,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}In response, I said that if we don't use it,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:34.42,0:44:38.38,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}if we prevent 90 percent of suicide attacks now,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:38.59,0:44:41.76,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}we'll prevent 70 percent instead,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:43.18,0:44:45.43,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}which means dead Israelis.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:46.81,0:44:49.27,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Prime Minister Rabin had to decide.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:50.11,0:44:54.87,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He once got out of his chair furiously
Dialogue: 0,0:44:54.94,0:44:58.40,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and shouted at Ben-Y a“, 
Dialogue: 0,0:44:58.49,0:45:00.70,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"You keep telling me what I can't do!
Dialogue: 0,0:45:00.78,0:45:03.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"Tell me once what I can do!"
Dialogue: 0,0:45:03.33,0:45:05.79,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}it was a very contentious issue.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:10.83,0:45:14.25,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Rabin was a security man in every bone in his body, 
Dialogue: 0,0:45:14.34,0:45:18.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}not someone we have to explain to when we said, 
Dialogue: 0,0:45:18.34,0:45:20.43,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"We don't have the tools to provide security." 
Dialogue: 0,0:45:20.51,0:45:22.10,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He understood it perfectly. 
Dialogue: 0,0:45:23.01,0:45:25.10,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You saw that he was torn up over it, 
Dialogue: 0,0:45:26.64,0:45:29.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}but he made a decision that said, 
Dialogue: 0,0:45:29.27,0:45:32.82,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"We will fight terror as if there is no peace process
Dialogue: 0,0:45:32.90,0:45:35.15,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"and continue the peace process as if there is no terror."
Dialogue: 0,0:45:42.20,0:45:44.49,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}As the attacks increased, 
Dialogue: 0,0:45:44.99,0:45:47.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}the Right, and not just the extremists, 
Dialogue: 0,0:45:47.66,0:45:51.58,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}took to the streets against the Oslo Accords.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:51.67,0:45:55.97,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It was exactly what Hamas wanted, and they succeeded.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:03.39,0:46:08.65,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}With blood and fire, we'll throw Rabin out!
Dialogue: 0,0:46:26.74,0:46:32.29,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Most opposition to the peace process was from the religious camp. 
Dialogue: 0,0:46:32.79,0:46:40.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Their leaders targeted Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:42.51,0:46:45.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The incitement was focused on him. 
Dialogue: 0,0:47:36.36,0:47:42.12,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}As a young army recruit in 1974, they took us 
Dialogue: 0,0:47:42.65,0:47:47.20,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}to stop the first Jewish settlers in the West Bank. 
Dialogue: 0,0:47:48.45,0:47:53.25,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We stood there, rows of soldiers gripping each other's arms. 
Dialogue: 0,0:47:53.87,0:48:01.71,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The settlers started hitting us in anger.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:02.13,0:48:03.88,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I remember that I really didn't like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:03.97,0:48:07.22,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The illegal settlements were built despite
Dialogue: 0,0:48:07.30,0:48:09.89,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}or in opposition to, government decisions,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:09.97,0:48:12.31,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}but there was no Israeli government
Dialogue: 0,0:48:12.39,0:48:14.89,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}that didn't accept them, or come to accept them.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:17.90,0:48:22.15,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The fact that most Israeli governments 
Dialogue: 0,0:48:22.57,0:48:28.53,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}did nothing gave the settlers
Dialogue: 0,0:48:28.62,0:48:32.50,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}the sense that they're slowly becoming the masters,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:32.58,0:48:35.25,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}that they're gaining the freedom to act 
Dialogue: 0,0:48:35.33,0:48:39.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}because the government looks away. 
Dialogue: 0,0:48:39.17,0:48:41.63,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}If they do that with an illegal settlement, 
Dialogue: 0,0:48:41.84,0:48:44.51,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}it can extend into illegal activity.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:57.19,0:49:00.53,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}In 1980, a Fatah cell 
Dialogue: 0,0:49:00.94,0:49:04.36,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}attacked worshippers leaving the synagogue in Hebron. 
Dialogue: 0,0:49:09.41,0:49:12.71,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}A revenge attack occurred 30 days later. 
Dialogue: 0,0:49:13.16,0:49:17.54,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They attacked Palestinian mayors Bassam Shaka 'a in Nab/us 
Dialogue: 0,0:49:17.62,0:49:20.21,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and Karim Halaf in Ramallah. 
Dialogue: 0,0:49:21.71,0:49:27.84,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Another bomb blinded someone from the bomb squad
Dialogue: 0,0:49:28.18,0:49:31.39,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}in the home of Ibrahim Tawil, mayor of al-Bireh.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:43.23,0:49:44.77,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We knew Jews did it.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:44.86,0:49:50.70,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We didn't think it was some rival Palestinian group.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:51.20,0:49:54.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You check the Jewish files and find no clues.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:54.33,0:49:57.17,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}At some point you realize that you have a problem,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:57.25,0:49:58.54,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}that it's an intelligence failure.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:01.46,0:50:06.84,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We put our entire Operations Unit into action. 
Dialogue: 0,0:50:07.71,0:50:11.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Operations put in tens of thousands of hours, 
Dialogue: 0,0:50:14.89,0:50:18.85,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}until, 6 months later, we were in the right direction. 
Dialogue: 0,0:50:18.93,0:50:20.39,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We knew who did it. 
Dialogue: 0,0:50:21.90,0:50:26.57,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They were a very ideological group, really top quality. 
Dialogue: 0,0:50:27.19,0:50:33.45,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Moreover, some of them were even leaders of the communities in which they lived. 
Dialogue: 0,0:50:34.20,0:50:39.75,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}That gave them access to the Prime Minister. 
Dialogue: 0,0:50:39.83,0:50:41.92,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They had access to the Knesset.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:42.00,0:50:43.79,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They had access to ministries.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:43.88,0:50:45.76,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They were friends with ministers.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:45.84,0:50:48.84,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They're part of the Israeli establishment,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:48.92,0:50:52.13,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}the respectable establishment of the State of Israel.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:52.26,0:50:57.93,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We said, "if we don't catch them in the act, we'll never catch them."
Dialogue: 0,0:51:01.77,0:51:06.15,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The decision came when they planned to put bombs 
Dialogue: 0,0:51:06.36,0:51:09.61,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}in Palestinian buses in a parking lot in Jerusalem. 
Dialogue: 0,0:51:09.82,0:51:15.37,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The attack they planned on the buses was insane.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:15.45,0:51:19.50,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They intended to kill 250 Arabs all at once.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:20.45,0:51:22.16,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We followed them all night. 
Dialogue: 0,0:51:22.83,0:51:24.92,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I commanded the operation in Jerusalem. 
Dialogue: 0,0:51:27.84,0:51:30.59,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It was another night I'll never forget. 
Dialogue: 0,0:51:32.22,0:51:37.43,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We arrested them at 4:30 a.m., putting bombs on the buses. 
Dialogue: 0,0:51:38.39,0:51:41.81,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We got out of our cars and said, "Come, join us.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:42.64,0:51:45.69,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"If you don't want anything to happen to our bomb squad,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:45.77,0:51:47.94,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"dismantle the bombs."
Dialogue: 0,0:51:52.57,0:51:55.36,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We did our first wave of arrests, of 17 members. 
Dialogue: 0,0:51:55.45,0:52:01.54,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Then we investigated and found out that since 1978-9,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:01.62,0:52:04.37,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}they were planning an attack on the Temple Mount
Dialogue: 0,0:52:04.54,0:52:07.17,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}to blow up the Dome of the Rock.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:11.63,0:52:15.09,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}At first, the idea was based on the belief that 
Dialogue: 0,0:52:15.18,0:52:20.06,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}as long as the "abomination" stood over the site of the Jewish Temple, 
Dialogue: 0,0:52:20.47,0:52:22.31,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}there will be no Redemption
Dialogue: 0,0:52:22.39,0:52:24.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and therefore, they have to get rid of that Dome.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:26.90,0:52:28.74,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They prepared the bombs. 
Dialogue: 0,0:52:29.06,0:52:33.31,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They used a very sensitive type of explosive, Semtex. 
Dialogue: 0,0:52:33.82,0:52:37.74,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It was planned by Menachem Livni, 
Dialogue: 0,0:52:37.82,0:52:40.74,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}who was a demolitions genius. 
Dialogue: 0,0:52:43.04,0:52:45.84,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The charges would be placed so that the entire force of the explosion 
Dialogue: 0,0:52:46.04,0:52:49.17,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}would be directed at the support structure. 
Dialogue: 0,0:52:49.25,0:52:52.25,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}This would result in the collapse of the Dome. 
Dialogue: 0,0:53:10.27,0:53:13.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The consequence of blowing up the Dome of the Rock, even today,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:13.78,0:53:18.29,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}is that it could lead to total war by all the Islamic states,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:18.61,0:53:20.28,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}not just the Arab states,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:20.70,0:53:24.12,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}not just Iran, Indonesia, too,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:25.70,0:53:27.45,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}against the State of Israel.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:27.79,0:53:34.21,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I'm not talking about the risk to the Jewish minority around the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:34.75,0:53:38.21,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}These people decided to do it
Dialogue: 0,0:53:39.55,0:53:45.10,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}out of some mystical belief that this would be the War of Armageddon
Dialogue: 0,0:53:45.18,0:53:48.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}that would usher in the Messiah and a Jewish kingdom.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:01.87,0:54:04.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}After we exposed the Jewish Underground, 
Dialogue: 0,0:54:04.24,0:54:09.33,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Prime Minister Shamir called my unit the "diamond in the crown."
Dialogue: 0,0:54:10.58,0:54:14.33,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We received compliments and support from everywhere.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:15.17,0:54:19.76,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Then the lobbying on their behalf began.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:21.68,0:54:25.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They were put on trial. Three of them got life in prison, 
Dialogue: 0,0:54:25.56,0:54:28.27,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}different sentences. They all got out of prison very quickly. 
Dialogue: 0,0:54:29.14,0:54:31.35,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They went home as if nothing happened. 
Dialogue: 0,0:54:31.56,0:54:34.06,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They went back to their previous positions, 
Dialogue: 0,0:54:34.15,0:54:38.86,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}some to even higher positions. 
Dialogue: 0,0:54:39.82,0:54:42.74,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The main question is how history will judge us
Dialogue: 0,0:54:42.82,0:54:44.57,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}in the annals of the Jewish People.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:44.66,0:54:47.12,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I am sure that the Dome of the Rock
Dialogue: 0,0:54:47.20,0:54:49.20,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}will not remain on the Temple Mount
Dialogue: 0,0:54:49.29,0:54:52.42,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and the Temple Mount will return to us,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:52.50,0:54:55.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}just as I am sure that those same murderers,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:55.54,0:54:58.09,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}whose legs I took part in removing,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:58.17,0:54:59.88,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}deserved their fate.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:06.89,0:55:11.31,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The entire Underground was released by the Knesset.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:12.14,0:55:15.48,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The Clemency Law for the Jewish Underground is signed by
Dialogue: 0,0:55:16.52,0:55:19.31,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Yitzhak Shamir as Prime Minister of Israel.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:19.53,0:55:22.16,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It wasn't just a few members of the Opposition.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:22.74,0:55:24.99,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}At first it was, "Oh, no! They broke the law.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:25.07,0:55:29.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"They killed people. They wanted to blow up the country," etc.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:30.16,0:55:33.21,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Later they said, "They are our own flesh and blood."
Dialogue: 0,0:55:33.29,0:55:37.38,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Then, the delegitimization process was transferred to the Shin Bet.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:38.09,0:55:41.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The story of the Jewish Underground is an episode
Dialogue: 0,0:55:41.67,0:55:46.05,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}that really shook up the Shin Bet intelligence-wise.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:46.14,0:55:48.93,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It established the intelligence mechanism that, since then,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:49.39,0:55:52.94,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}keeps an eye on those Jewish suspects worth watching,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:53.02,0:55:55.69,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}in our opinion, in the West Bank.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:55.77,0:56:00.15,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You watch it closely. You work hard
Dialogue: 0,0:56:00.23,0:56:07.28,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and up comes Yigal Amir, who was never on any list of suspects.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:07.37,0:56:11.62,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He gets up one morning and shoots the Prime Minister.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:49.70,0:56:53.75,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Around July-August 1995, 
Dialogue: 0,0:56:54.16,0:57:00.50,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I started to feel that we were faced with an increase
Dialogue: 0,0:57:00.59,0:57:04.93,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}in the potential for the assassination of the Prime Minister.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:05.01,0:57:10.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Rabin's a traitor! Rabin's a traitor!
Dialogue: 0,0:57:10.72,0:57:15.85,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We're fighting against a government that's leading us into a chasm!
Dialogue: 0,0:57:18.90,0:57:23.36,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The Right's activity in Israel was no secret.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:23.98,0:57:28.19,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You don't need the head of the Shin Bet to explain
Dialogue: 0,0:57:28.57,0:57:34.54,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}what Bibi Netanyahu or Arik Sharon said
Dialogue: 0,0:57:34.62,0:57:37.12,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}to the demonstrators in Jerusalem. 
Dialogue: 0,0:57:38.04,0:57:40.67,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You don't need the head of the Shin Bet to explain 
Dialogue: 0,0:57:40.75,0:57:45.38,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}to the Israeli public and especially the Prime Minister 
Dialogue: 0,0:57:45.46,0:57:50.22,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}the significance of Rabin's coffin at a mock funeral. 
Dialogue: 0,0:57:53.72,0:57:59.48,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}With blood and fire, we'll throw Rabin out!
Dialogue: 0,0:57:59.94,0:58:02.86,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Things started heating up more and more. 
Dialogue: 0,0:58:03.19,0:58:06.49,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}There was an attempted attack at the Wingate Institute. 
Dialogue: 0,0:58:09.24,0:58:13.41,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}After that, I went over to him and said,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:13.49,0:58:17.91,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"Listen, Yitzhak, it doesn't work like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:18.50,0:58:20.75,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"They'll hurt you in the end.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:21.42,0:58:25.51,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"I'm asking you to start wearing a bulletproof vest
Dialogue: 0,0:58:25.92,0:58:31.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"and to drive in the armored car. We'll increase your security detail."
Dialogue: 0,0:58:32.26,0:58:34.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He slammed me down.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:34.35,0:58:38.73,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"I was a soldier before the State. I won't wear a bulletproof vest."
Dialogue: 0,0:58:38.81,0:58:40.85,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Did you speak to the rabbis and the settlers' leaders?
Dialogue: 0,0:58:40.94,0:58:45.61,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Yes. I met with rabbis. I met with the leaders of the settlers.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:46.57,0:58:50.95,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We spoke about incitement and insurrection. 
Dialogue: 0,0:58:52.57,0:58:56.45,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The government has no right to force people to do
Dialogue: 0,0:58:56.53,0:59:00.70,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}anything that runs counter to the Torah and Jewish Law.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:05.71,0:59:07.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}All of you here,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:08.50,0:59:11.63,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}by your presence at this gathering,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:11.84,0:59:13.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}prove
Dialogue: 0,0:59:14.05,0:59:17.80,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}that the people really do want peace
Dialogue: 0,0:59:18.22,0:59:20.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and oppose violence.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:27.73,0:59:30.94,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I went to Paris on Thursday, maybe Wednesday,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:31.36,0:59:35.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}on an assignment that was forced on me by Rabin.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:35.99,0:59:38.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I got a call from my bureau chief,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:39.79,0:59:43.75,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}who told me that Rabin was wounded.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:46.38,0:59:50.88,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I was in shock, of course, but I was surrounded by people,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:50.96,0:59:52.92,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}so I had to function.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:54.43,1:00:00.06,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}On a personal level, until I sat on the plane in the dark at night,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:00.14,1:00:03.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}on the flight to Tel Aviv, I think it was the first time
Dialogue: 0,1:00:03.60,1:00:08.02,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}that I started to feel in my heart what I knew in my head.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:09.02,1:00:13.11,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Thank God for those four hours
Dialogue: 0,1:00:13.19,1:00:17.78,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}because it gave me a chance to absorb the loss
Dialogue: 0,1:00:17.87,1:00:27.17,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}of a man who really was extraordinary.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:51.61,1:00:53.82,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"I am ashamed."
Dialogue: 0,1:00:53.90,1:00:59.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}In retrospect, I can say that it changed my whole world.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:00.53,1:01:05.33,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I suddenly saw a different Israel.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:05.75,1:01:10.09,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I wasn't aware of the intensity of the chasms and hatred,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:11.92,1:01:15.22,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}of the rifts that exist between us.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:15.67,1:01:17.59,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}How do we see our future?
Dialogue: 0,1:01:18.80,1:01:23.39,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}What do we have in common?
Dialogue: 0,1:01:23.47,1:01:28.68,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Why did we come here? What do we want to become?
Dialogue: 0,1:01:29.81,1:01:37.23,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}All that was self-evident, and it all fell apart.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:39.82,1:01:41.91,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Rabin's assassination shattered all hope. 
Dialogue: 0,1:01:41.99,1:01:48.29,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It showed very clearly that some punk of an assassin, 
Dialogue: 0,1:01:48.50,1:01:50.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}with a pistol that could barely shoot, 
Dialogue: 0,1:01:50.92,1:01:55.05,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}could eliminate hope, an entire peace process.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:55.51,1:01:58.22,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He could change everything.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:08.64,1:02:12.39,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}First of all, I decided, after consulting with my wife,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:13.02,1:02:16.90,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}that I would take ministerial responsibility,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:16.98,1:02:19.27,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and submit my resignation.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:19.36,1:02:21.82,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I did that immediately.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:22.82,1:02:24.41,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}What does she tell you?
Dialogue: 0,1:02:26.29,1:02:30.75,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}She... tries to keep me alive.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:32.83,1:02:34.83,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It was a very difficult period.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:35.55,1:02:39.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Yigal Amir succeeded. He changed history.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:39.80,1:02:45.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He changed history. He succeeded big time.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:46.31,1:02:47.85,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}- Until today. - Until today.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:48.06,1:02:50.77,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}On the contrary, it's only getting worse.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:51.60,1:02:54.19,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I believe that we'll see another political assassination
Dialogue: 0,1:02:57.36,1:03:00.36,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}surrounding the withdrawal from the West Bank.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:01.86,1:03:05.28,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It will come from every direction, mainly from the rabbis,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:05.37,1:03:09.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}because the rabbis have no reason to learn any lesson.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:10.87,1:03:15.75,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}As far as the extremist rabbis are concerned, the system proved itself.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:38.77,1:03:42.36,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Rabin's assassination brought me to the Shin Bet.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:43.65,1:03:46.49,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}A year earlier, I turned Rabin down, 
Dialogue: 0,1:03:46.57,1:03:48.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}when he asked me to be head of the Shin Bet. 
Dialogue: 0,1:03:49.91,1:03:52.83,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}After Yitzhak Rabin's assassination, I realized I had no choice. 
Dialogue: 0,1:03:53.25,1:04:00.13,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It was obvious the Shin Bet faced a serious crisis
Dialogue: 0,1:04:00.80,1:04:03.51,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and everyone in the Shin Bet knew it.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:03.59,1:04:07.97,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Everything about the Shin Bet's operations collapsed.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:08.05,1:04:11.51,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Security surrounding the Prime Minister collapsed.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:11.77,1:04:14.86,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The intelligence that should have prevented the assassination collapsed.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:14.94,1:04:17.07,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The Shin Bet's strong suit,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:17.15,1:04:21.03,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}preventing Palestinian and Islamic terror,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:21.11,1:04:22.99,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}could no longer provide the goods.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:23.28,1:04:25.91,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The organization was down for the count.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:35.79,1:04:39.88,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The Shin Bet needed new tools and they had to be developed.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:40.59,1:04:44.68,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We also realized that we were relying on force,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:44.76,1:04:45.80,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}rather than our brains.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:52.47,1:04:58.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We began to implement an organizational shift, 
Dialogue: 0,1:04:58.98,1:05:04.94,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}from field operations to people sitting in offices 
Dialogue: 0,1:05:05.03,1:05:07.41,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}in front of their computer monitors. 
Dialogue: 0,1:05:13.37,1:05:16.71,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We prevented more attacks each year.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:16.79,1:05:20.04,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We achieved greater security every year.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:20.13,1:05:21.30,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}How did it happen?
Dialogue: 0,1:05:22.34,1:05:25.59,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It had a lot to do with changes we made in the Shin Bet,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:25.67,1:05:27.63,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}but the truth must be told.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:29.64,1:05:33.19,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The more significant achievement
Dialogue: 0,1:05:33.51,1:05:35.85,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}was cooperation between us and the Palestinians.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:39.02,1:05:42.48,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I met with all the top Palestinian security officials, 
Dialogue: 0,1:05:42.69,1:05:45.94,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}all of them, once a month, to coordinate intelligence. 
Dialogue: 0,1:05:46.03,1:05:47.28,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They always told me, 
Dialogue: 0,1:05:48.53,1:05:50.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"We're not your agents. 
Dialogue: 0,1:05:51.03,1:05:54.16,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"We don't put Hamas members in prison for your sake.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:54.37,1:05:59.71,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"We only do it because our people believe that,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:00.50,1:06:03.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"at the end of the day, we'll have a state beside Israel.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:04.05,1:06:07.30,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"When we no longer believe that, forget about us."
Dialogue: 0,1:06:17.39,1:06:21.06,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Just as there was a strong desire, a firm decision
Dialogue: 0,1:06:21.15,1:06:25.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and real intent by Peres and Rabin to reach an agreement
Dialogue: 0,1:06:25.73,1:06:30.53,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}after Rabin was gone, the desire,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:30.74,1:06:36.91,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}or Israel's intent to reach a real agreement dwindled,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:36.99,1:06:38.53,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}to put it mildly.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:44.09,1:06:45.68,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}There was no good faith. 
Dialogue: 0,1:06:46.71,1:06:49.51,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}There was no good faith from the Palestinian side 
Dialogue: 0,1:06:49.84,1:06:51.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and not from the Israeli side. 
Dialogue: 0,1:06:53.01,1:06:56.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We wanted security and got more terrorism.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:56.93,1:07:00.02,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They wanted a state and got more settlements.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:00.10,1:07:04.02,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}When we started the Oslo process in 1993-1994,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:04.11,1:07:08.74,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}100,000 settlers lived in the West Bank and Gaza,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:08.82,1:07:11.78,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}not including the new Jerusalem suburbs.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:12.57,1:07:14.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}At the end of the process,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:14.87,1:07:16.54,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}6-7 years later,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:16.62,1:07:19.04,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}in the summer of 2000, when the process collapsed,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:19.12,1:07:21.58,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}there were over 220,000 settlers.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:24.67,1:07:26.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Ehud Barak is very proud 
Dialogue: 0,1:07:27.04,1:07:29.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}to have built more settlements than Bibi Netanyahu 
Dialogue: 0,1:07:30.05,1:07:32.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}or any other Prime Minister before him. 
Dialogue: 0,1:07:35.80,1:07:38.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}So the question isn't whether there's a partner. 
Dialogue: 0,1:07:39.27,1:07:42.90,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Arafat doesn't have a partner. Barak doesn't have a partner. 
Dialogue: 0,1:07:43.44,1:07:47.61,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The question is what both sides do to have a partner. 
Dialogue: 0,1:07:54.99,1:07:58.12,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It was obvious we were heading toward another Intifada, 
Dialogue: 0,1:07:58.20,1:08:01.79,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}another round of violence by a group, a society, a nation
Dialogue: 0,1:08:01.87,1:08:05.29,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}that felt that it had nothing to lose.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:22.45,1:09:24.41,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}In 2002, I went to London. 
Dialogue: 0,1:09:24.66,1:09:28.25,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The Intifada was raging. It was hell and we went to London,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:28.37,1:09:31.62,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}a group of Israelis and a group of Palestinians,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:31.71,1:09:35.09,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}in order to see if we could do anything.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:35.80,1:09:39.35,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}At some point, I was making myself a cup of coffee
Dialogue: 0,1:09:39.43,1:09:41.68,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and I was approached by a Palestinian acquaintance
Dialogue: 0,1:09:43.64,1:09:47.23,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}named wad Satay a Doctor of Psychiatry. 
Dialogue: 0,1:09:47.69,1:09:52.57,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He said, "Ami, we finally defeated you."
Dialogue: 0,1:09:53.32,1:09:56.95,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I said to him, "Are you mad? What do you mean, defeated us?
Dialogue: 0,1:09:57.44,1:10:03.11,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"Hundreds of you are getting killed. At this rate thousands of you will get killed.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:04.29,1:10:07.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"You're about to lose whatever tiny bit of a state you have
Dialogue: 0,1:10:08.71,1:10:12.30,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"and you'll lose your dream of statehood. What kind of victory is that?"
Dialogue: 0,1:10:13.04,1:10:16.09,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He said to me, "Ami, I don't understand you.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:16.17,1:10:18.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"You still don't understand us.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:18.80,1:10:22.55,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"For us, victory is seeing you suffer.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:22.64,1:10:24.31,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"That's all we want.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:25.35,1:10:28.60,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"The more we suffer, the more you'll suffer.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:28.68,1:10:35.65,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"Finally, after 50 years, we've reached a balance of power,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:36.40,1:10:37.99,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"a balance,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:39.49,1:10:43.45,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"your F-16 versus our suicide bomber."
Dialogue: 0,1:10:43.66,1:10:48.83,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}lyad Saraj's statement gave me a very clear insight.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:49.12,1:10:52.58,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I suddenly understood the suicide bomber phenomenon.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:52.79,1:10:55.75,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I suddenly understood our reaction very differently.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:55.84,1:11:01.51,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}How many operations did we launch because we hurt,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:02.01,1:11:07.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}because when they blow up buses it really hurts us and we want revenge?
Dialogue: 0,1:11:07.35,1:11:08.73,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}How often have we done that?
Dialogue: 0,1:11:41.84,1:11:44.68,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Yahya Ayyash was the most senior terrorist 
Dialogue: 0,1:11:44.97,1:11:46.85,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}that ever operated against Israel, 
Dialogue: 0,1:11:47.47,1:11:49.89,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}certainly the most senior member of Hamas. 
Dialogue: 0,1:11:51.14,1:11:53.31,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He was an engineer. 
Dialogue: 0,1:11:53.39,1:11:58.23,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He knew how to make bombs out of improvised explosives. 
Dialogue: 0,1:11:58.65,1:12:03.53,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Those were the bomb belts that blew up in buses.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:04.07,1:12:09.03,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Secondly, he knew how to convince someone to commit suicide.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:09.99,1:12:14.37,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Finally, he had survival skills that beggared description. 
Dialogue: 0,1:12:14.71,1:12:20.38,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}For years, every IDF soldier carried his picture. 
Dialogue: 0,1:12:20.67,1:12:24.13,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He was undoubtedly our number one most wanted man.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:29.43,1:12:33.27,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Yahya {\i1}A yyash moved  from Samaria to Gaza.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:33.52,1:12:37.57,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It took some time to get that intelligence. 
Dialogue: 0,1:12:37.98,1:12:45.03,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Then we started basic surveillance to see who was around him, where he might go.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:52.79,1:12:56.54,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Of course, everyone has his weak points.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:57.67,1:13:01.30,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Yahya Ayyash's weak point was his wife and son. 
Dialogue: 0,1:13:02.80,1:13:08.81,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}After a long time living alone in Gaza, he asked them to join him.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:09.34,1:13:16.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We knew the whole story, and I decided to let them into Gaza.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:18.81,1:13:25.11,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I thought, once they were in Gaza, he'll want to see them. 
Dialogue: 0,1:13:25.19,1:13:28.74,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Maybe the mouse would come out of his hole. 
Dialogue: 0,1:13:31.49,1:13:36.58,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Then we found out that he really misses his father. 
Dialogue: 0,1:13:37.62,1:13:40.33,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}How did you know that he wanted to talk to his father?
Dialogue: 0,1:13:40.67,1:13:42.13,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We heard.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:42.21,1:13:45.84,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}- From a source? - We hear rumors.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:48.47,1:13:53.48,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He never used a cell phone. People made calls for him. 
Dialogue: 0,1:13:55.97,1:13:58.85,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}After weeks of persuasion,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:59.73,1:14:03.53,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}he agreed to speak to his father for a few minutes.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:05.44,1:14:09.69,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}At this point, we started laying the groundwork
Dialogue: 0,1:14:10.07,1:14:13.49,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}for our cell phone to infiltrate his surroundings.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:14.24,1:14:17.79,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Then we started doing all the backup work, 
Dialogue: 0,1:14:18.29,1:14:23.25,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}making sure that an innocent cell phone had explosives in it. 
Dialogue: 0,1:14:23.34,1:14:27.59,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The Shin Bet are technical experts,
Dialogue: 0,1:14:28.13,1:14:33.01,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}experts at making small appliances with lots of power,
Dialogue: 0,1:14:33.10,1:14:35.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}not so much broadcast power as explosive power.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:35.72,1:14:39.06,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Since it was difficult for us to make direct contact with Ayyash,
Dialogue: 0,1:14:39.14,1:14:43.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}we used the services of a middleman.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:43.65,1:14:45.57,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He gave him the cell phone.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:49.07,1:14:52.07,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}One Friday, everything was in place. 
Dialogue: 0,1:14:52.41,1:14:54.75,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We set off the explosive charge in the phone 
Dialogue: 0,1:14:56.87,1:14:58.41,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and nothing worked.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:59.33,1:15:04.84,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Everything we built up over eight months fell apart in front of us.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:05.04,1:15:07.25,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Everything worked perfectly.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:07.46,1:15:11.01,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Then we click to get the coffee and it doesn't come out.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:11.09,1:15:12.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Nothing happened.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:13.80,1:15:17.43,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Within days, the phone was back in its natural environment. 
Dialogue: 0,1:15:17.89,1:15:20.60,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We saw that no one suspected anything, 
Dialogue: 0,1:15:20.68,1:15:22.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}that things went on as normal. 
Dialogue: 0,1:15:24.44,1:15:26.78,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We all got together again. 
Dialogue: 0,1:15:29.99,1:15:34.49,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}On Friday morning, his father called him. 
Dialogue: 0,1:15:34.99,1:15:40.95,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The wire tapper recognized Ayyash's voice and told us. 
Dialogue: 0,1:15:42.08,1:15:44.92,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Someone hit a button
Dialogue: 0,1:15:45.83,1:15:47.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and the cell phone exploded
Dialogue: 0,1:15:48.25,1:15:51.63,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}while it was right next to Yahya Ayyash's ear.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:51.72,1:15:55.14,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He was killed on the spot and no one around him was hurt.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:55.51,1:16:01.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}More importantly, no one on the ground floor heard the explosion.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:02.10,1:16:07.36,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The operation was coordinated with the Air Force. It went very nicely.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:07.44,1:16:09.61,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It was very clean... elegant.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:10.82,1:16:15.87,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I like operations like that. They're nice and tidy.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:36.59,1:16:38.97,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}To some people, the assassination of Yahya Ayyash, 
Dialogue: 0,1:16:39.05,1:16:43.30,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}at a time that seemed relatively free of attacks, 
Dialogue: 0,1:16:43.60,1:16:45.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}some said it was a mistake. 
Dialogue: 0,1:16:46.90,1:16:48.53,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Sometimes it feels quiet
Dialogue: 0,1:16:48.86,1:16:53.03,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and you say, "Oh! We disturbed the calm."
Dialogue: 0,1:17:03.12,1:17:06.04,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Two months later, it seemed like the whole country was exploding. 
Dialogue: 0,1:17:06.12,1:17:09.54,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}- Yes. - Don't you see the connection?
Dialogue: 0,1:17:09.75,1:17:12.75,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Yes, we know for a fact,
Dialogue: 0,1:17:13.13,1:17:17.84,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}after Ayyash's assassination a group crossed the fence
Dialogue: 0,1:17:17.93,1:17:23.69,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and left Gaza to organize attacks from the West Bank.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:23.81,1:17:25.85,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Of course I see the connection.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:25.98,1:17:28.07,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}But if we make the equation,
Dialogue: 0,1:17:28.15,1:17:31.19,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}if we assassinate them, they'll commit suicide attacks,
Dialogue: 0,1:17:31.27,1:17:35.07,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}if we don't assassinate them, they won't.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:35.15,1:17:38.07,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The second part of the equation is false.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:46.91,1:17:48.41,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}After we pulled out of  Gaza,
Dialogue: 0,1:17:48.50,1:17:52.67,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}we couldn't enter the Palestinian areas,
Dialogue: 0,1:17:53.38,1:17:58.93,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}unexpectedly, with a small force, and exit safely.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:01.22,1:18:05.68,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}How do you surprise a terrorist? From the air, from a distance. 
Dialogue: 0,1:18:05.77,1:18:08.31,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He has no idea where the missile came from.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:08.39,1:18:11.27,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}But to fire a missile from a distance,
Dialogue: 0,1:18:11.65,1:18:14.11,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}you need very precise intel
Dialogue: 0,1:18:14.78,1:18:17.78,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and not for one split second, but for the entire operation.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:42.47,1:18:44.14,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}What is targeted assassination?
Dialogue: 0,1:18:44.89,1:18:46.60,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Where do we break the chain?
Dialogue: 0,1:18:46.68,1:18:49.23,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Okay, we'll injure.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:49.31,1:18:52.90,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}If necessary, we'll even kill whomever comes to kill us.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:54.06,1:18:56.48,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}What happens to the people surrounding him? 
Dialogue: 0,1:18:57.40,1:18:59.53,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}What happens to the people who make the explosives, 
Dialogue: 0,1:18:59.61,1:19:02.45,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}who transport him, who make the plans, 
Dialogue: 0,1:19:02.53,1:19:07.41,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}who gather the intel, and who just preach the idea? 
Dialogue: 0,1:19:08.79,1:19:09.87,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They don't kill. 
Dialogue: 0,1:19:09.96,1:19:14.01,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They preach an ideology that, in the end,
Dialogue: 0,1:19:14.21,1:19:17.84,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}creates jihad and leads to the death of Israelis.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:26.68,1:19:30.35,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Salah Shehadeh was what we called the "hairspring," 
Dialogue: 0,1:19:30.43,1:19:33.81,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}that set Hamas's entire terror operation in Gaza into motion. 
Dialogue: 0,1:19:34.65,1:19:37.61,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The hunt for him was very difficult, 
Dialogue: 0,1:19:37.69,1:19:40.99,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}with lots of intelligence tools invested in it. 
Dialogue: 0,1:19:42.03,1:19:45.16,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}At some stage, it was clear that he was home, 
Dialogue: 0,1:19:46.74,1:19:48.70,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}that his daughter wasn't, 
Dialogue: 0,1:19:49.24,1:19:51.37,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and that only his wife was with him. 
Dialogue: 0,1:19:51.96,1:19:56.13,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We agreed by phone,
Dialogue: 0,1:19:56.21,1:20:01.17,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}the Chief of Staff, me, the Defense Minister and the Prime Minister.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:11.77,1:20:14.82,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The Air Force dropped a one-ton bomb on the house. 
Dialogue: 0,1:20:15.69,1:20:18.78,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Unfortunately, because of inaccurate intelligence,
Dialogue: 0,1:20:19.40,1:20:21.57,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}innocents were killed.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:21.65,1:20:24.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}No one knows the final number, 9-14.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:55.52,1:20:58.81,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}When you drop a one-ton bomb on a densely populated area,
Dialogue: 0,1:20:58.90,1:21:00.57,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}like in the Shehadeh incident,
Dialogue: 0,1:21:00.65,1:21:02.57,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}obviously bystanders will be hurt...
Dialogue: 0,1:21:02.65,1:21:05.28,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}No, it's not obvious. No. You gather intelligence.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:05.36,1:21:08.61,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Where do people live?
Dialogue: 0,1:21:09.20,1:21:13.87,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}How many? Who? What are the chances? Where do you shoot from?
Dialogue: 0,1:21:29.30,1:21:35.31,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The implications of this incident, in terms of collateral damage,
Dialogue: 0,1:21:35.39,1:21:40.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}led to criticism of how we could drop a bomb
Dialogue: 0,1:21:40.61,1:21:44.07,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}on a home in the middle of Gaza.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:44.40,1:21:46.61,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}An American asked me about it.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:46.70,1:21:50.04,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I said, "We know about your methods in Afghanistan.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:50.12,1:21:53.12,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"You bombed a wedding and 70 people were killed
Dialogue: 0,1:21:53.20,1:21:55.33,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"and no one knows if the target was killed."
Dialogue: 0,1:21:56.66,1:22:04.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Overkill! It's security stupidity! It's military stupidity.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:04.17,1:22:05.76,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I don't know what to call it,
Dialogue: 0,1:22:06.09,1:22:12.76,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}but it makes no sense that to kill the most important man in Gaza
Dialogue: 0,1:22:12.85,1:22:15.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}you have to drop a one-ton bomb on a house
Dialogue: 0,1:22:16.18,1:22:19.68,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}surrounded by homes with families and children.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:20.02,1:22:22.02,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}That can't be moral,
Dialogue: 0,1:22:22.90,1:22:24.86,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}it's ineffective militarily
Dialogue: 0,1:22:26.40,1:22:28.61,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and it's certainly not humane.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:29.15,1:22:31.19,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Is it just? Not that either.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:31.41,1:22:35.79,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}There's a concept, "the banality of evil."
Dialogue: 0,1:22:35.87,1:22:43.17,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}When you start doing it en masse, 200, 300 people die
Dialogue: 0,1:22:43.25,1:22:47.71,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}because of the idea of "targeted assassinations."
Dialogue: 0,1:22:47.96,1:22:52.55,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Suddenly the processes become a kind of conveyor belt.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:52.89,1:22:55.89,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You ask yourself less and less where to stop.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:59.23,1:23:05.15,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}September 6, 2003, was, for me, my toughest day as head of the Shin Bet.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:05.23,1:23:09.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}On that day the State of Israel had
Dialogue: 0,1:23:09.53,1:23:16.20,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}a chance to get rid of the biggest terrorist group
Dialogue: 0,1:23:16.28,1:23:17.41,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}in a single blow.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:19.25,1:23:22.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We had very reliable and precise intel 
Dialogue: 0,1:23:22.58,1:23:25.71,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}that the Hamas leadership was going to hold a meeting 
Dialogue: 0,1:23:25.79,1:23:28.67,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}like they never had before, and probably never will. 
Dialogue: 0,1:23:28.76,1:23:31.93,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I think there were ten or twelve people there,
Dialogue: 0,1:23:32.30,1:23:39.93,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}but the créme de la créme, the merde {\i1}de  Ia merde.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:40.02,1:23:41.69,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Really... everyone was there.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:47.73,1:23:52.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Suddenly I was told, "Listen, the army is opposed. 
Dialogue: 0,1:23:52.53,1:23:55.95,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"A one-ton bomb would cause collateral damage."
Dialogue: 0,1:23:56.41,1:24:00.75,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}There was a bitter argument. Finally, after several hours,
Dialogue: 0,1:24:00.95,1:24:04.29,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}the Prime Minister was convinced to cancel the attack.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:05.79,1:24:11.21,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I called the Prime Minister to convince him that it's unreasonable. 
Dialogue: 0,1:24:11.84,1:24:14.47,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The compromise was a quarter-ton.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:14.55,1:24:18.76,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It was based on probabilities.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:19.06,1:24:20.65,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The house had two stories. 
Dialogue: 0,1:24:20.72,1:24:25.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}If they were on the second floor, it would kill them. 
Dialogue: 0,1:24:25.73,1:24:30.11,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}If they were on the first floor, it wouldn't kill anyone. 
Dialogue: 0,1:24:34.61,1:24:35.95,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The bomb was dropped. 
Dialogue: 0,1:24:36.36,1:24:38.15,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It was a direct hit. 
Dialogue: 0,1:24:38.87,1:24:40.58,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The second story was destroyed 
Dialogue: 0,1:24:40.66,1:24:45.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and the entire "Dream Team" fled the house on their own two feet.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:45.75,1:24:48.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Some people insist they saw crippled Sheikh Yassin running.
Dialogue: 0,1:25:06.56,1:25:11.82,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}If there's a moment you realize,
Dialogue: 0,1:25:12.57,1:25:16.53,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}not that we missed, but that we were mistaken,
Dialogue: 0,1:25:16.82,1:25:23.29,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}because of what happened with Salah Shehadeh,
Dialogue: 0,1:25:23.50,1:25:26.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}we paid the price with the "Dream Team."
Dialogue: 0,1:25:28.50,1:25:32.55,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}it took a long time to get to some of the people there,
Dialogue: 0,1:25:32.80,1:25:34.89,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}like Sheikh Yassin and others.
Dialogue: 0,1:25:35.67,1:25:38.55,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}God knows how much damage they caused
Dialogue: 0,1:25:38.64,1:25:42.06,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}until we managed to take out the ones we did.
Dialogue: 0,1:25:42.60,1:25:46.15,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Some of them were never taken out and are still active today.
Dialogue: 0,1:25:58.45,1:26:03.54,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I've often said, "Terror is a barrel with a bottom."
Dialogue: 0,1:26:04.16,1:26:07.29,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You can reach the bottom. You don't need to reach the last terrorist.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:07.37,1:26:11.25,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You reach a critical mass, and that's enough of a deterrent.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:19.38,1:26:24.13,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I can prove to you that Hamas did not become more moderate 
Dialogue: 0,1:26:24.22,1:26:26.06,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}after Sheikh Yassin was eliminated. 
Dialogue: 0,1:26:29.27,1:26:30.94,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I can prove to you 
Dialogue: 0,1:26:31.69,1:26:35.28,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}that when we killed Abbas Musawi and Nasrallah took over instead,
Dialogue: 0,1:26:35.61,1:26:38.86,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}the security situation in Israel didn't really improve.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:38.99,1:26:44.41,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}That's why, when we deal, not with the one coming to kill us immediately,
Dialogue: 0,1:26:44.70,1:26:46.33,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}but with the person preaching,
Dialogue: 0,1:26:46.95,1:26:52.75,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}we are headed toward a place, which is forbidden by international law
Dialogue: 0,1:26:53.04,1:26:58.05,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and basicjustice poses huge question marks as to its ethics,
Dialogue: 0,1:26:58.46,1:27:00.59,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}but I'm talking to you as head of the Shin Bet.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:00.68,1:27:01.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It's ineffective.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:34.08,1:27:35.67,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I was born near the Sea of Galilee. 
Dialogue: 0,1:27:36.34,1:27:38.09,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I grew up in a children's house, 
Dialogue: 0,1:27:38.17,1:27:42.17,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}like all children who lived on kibbutzim did back then. 
Dialogue: 0,1:27:43.64,1:27:45.10,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I had a wonderful childhood. 
Dialogue: 0,1:27:47.39,1:27:52.19,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I knew that there's a house in Jerusalem
Dialogue: 0,1:27:52.27,1:27:54.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and on the second floor there's a long corridor.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:55.40,1:27:57.40,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}At the end of the corridor, there's a door
Dialogue: 0,1:27:57.48,1:28:02.28,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and behind the door is a wise man who makes decisions.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:02.36,1:28:03.53,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He thinks.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:04.86,1:28:06.70,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}My parents called him the "Old Man," Ben-Gurlon. 
Dialogue: 0,1:28:09.08,1:28:12.83,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Years later, after the Yom Kippur War, 
Dialogue: 0,1:28:13.46,1:28:17.01,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I went to Jerusalem, and I went to that same building.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:17.21,1:28:19.25,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I was on the second floor
Dialogue: 0,1:28:19.34,1:28:21.51,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and found no door at the end of the corridor
Dialogue: 0,1:28:21.59,1:28:25.30,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and behind the missing door, no one was thinking for me.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:50.28,1:28:56.83,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You see that void, that lack of initiative,
Dialogue: 0,1:28:56.92,1:29:00.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}that willingness to let things take their course,
Dialogue: 0,1:29:01.13,1:29:05.51,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}without you stepping in and saying,
Dialogue: 0,1:29:05.59,1:29:08.22,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"This is as far as it goes, in this direction or that."
Dialogue: 0,1:29:09.47,1:29:12.68,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You can't make peace using military means.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:13.43,1:29:18.73,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Peace must be built on a system of trust,
Dialogue: 0,1:29:19.15,1:29:21.36,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}after, or without using military means.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:21.44,1:29:23.73,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}In the end you must build it on a system of trust.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:24.36,1:29:28.45,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}As someone who knows the Palestinians well, I claim that
Dialogue: 0,1:29:29.57,1:29:31.28,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}there should be no problem
Dialogue: 0,1:29:31.37,1:29:33.87,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}building a system of trust with them, a genuine one.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:34.91,1:29:38.75,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}For Israel, it's too much of a luxury not to speak with our enemies.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:39.29,1:29:43.04,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}As long as they decide not to speak to us, I have no choice,
Dialogue: 0,1:29:43.13,1:29:46.38,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}but when we decide not to speak, I think we're making a mistake.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:46.88,1:29:48.97,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Do you support speaking to anyone?
Dialogue: 0,1:29:49.05,1:29:54.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Anyone we can, even if they answer rudely, I'm for continuing.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:57.31,1:29:59.31,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}There is no alternative.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:59.40,1:30:01.40,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}- To what? - To talking.
Dialogue: 0,1:30:04.32,1:30:06.61,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}- Hamas? Islamic Jihad... -including everyone.
Dialogue: 0,1:30:06.69,1:30:09.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I said everyone, so it includes...
Dialogue: 0,1:30:09.41,1:30:16.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Even Ahmadinejad, whoever. I'm always for it.
Dialogue: 0,1:30:16.29,1:30:20.63,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It's a trait of a professional intelligence operative to talk to everyone.
Dialogue: 0,1:30:21.17,1:30:22.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Things get clarified.
Dialogue: 0,1:30:24.21,1:30:28.42,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I see you don't eat glass. He sees I don't drink petrol.
Dialogue: 0,1:30:28.51,1:30:30.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}That's how it is.
Dialogue: 0,1:30:32.14,1:30:33.73,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I want to read something that 
Dialogue: 0,1:30:33.81,1:30:38.36,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Professor Leibowitz, a critic of the Occupation, 
Dialogue: 0,1:30:38.43,1:30:41.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}wrote a year after the Six Day War, in 1968. 
Dialogue: 0,1:30:42.73,1:30:46.11,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"A state ruling over a hostile population of one million foreigners 
Dialogue: 0,1:30:46.19,1:30:48.07,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"will necessarily become a Shin Bet state,
Dialogue: 0,1:30:48.15,1:30:50.99,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"with all that this implies for education,
Dialogue: 0,1:30:51.07,1:30:52.99,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"freedom of speech and thought
Dialogue: 0,1:30:53.20,1:30:54.70,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"and democracy.
Dialogue: 0,1:30:55.28,1:30:57.78,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"The corruption found in every colonial regime 
Dialogue: 0,1:30:57.87,1:30:59.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"will affix itself to the State of Israel. 
Dialogue: 0,1:31:00.16,1:31:03.83,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"The administration will have to suppress an Arab uprising on one hand 
Dialogue: 0,1:31:03.92,1:31:07.88,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"and acquire Quislings, or Arab traitors, on the other." 
Dialogue: 0,1:31:09.26,1:31:13.31,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}What do you think about this prediction, given where Israel is today?
Dialogue: 0,1:31:14.22,1:31:16.47,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I agree with every word he wrote.
Dialogue: 0,1:31:19.02,1:31:22.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}- Explain. - There's nothing to explain.
Dialogue: 0,1:31:22.40,1:31:25.74,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Every word he said is etched in stone.
Dialogue: 0,1:31:25.94,1:31:29.07,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Is that what Israeli society is like today?
Dialogue: 0,1:31:29.15,1:31:33.45,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I think it's an accurate depiction of the reality that emerged
Dialogue: 0,1:31:33.53,1:31:35.91,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}from 1968 until today.
Dialogue: 0,1:31:36.37,1:31:39.21,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I wouldn't say that it became a Shin Bet state,
Dialogue: 0,1:31:39.29,1:31:45.67,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}but no doubt, our current situation with the Palestinians
Dialogue: 0,1:31:45.88,1:31:49.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}undoubtedly created a reality that is very similar
Dialogue: 0,1:31:49.42,1:31:53.42,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}to what Leibowitz wrote.
Dialogue: 0,1:33:16.93,1:33:19.43,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}You knock on doors in the middle of the night 
Dialogue: 0,1:33:19.51,1:33:23.01,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and wake a sleeping family, all cuddled up in bed. 
Dialogue: 0,1:33:25.18,1:33:27.02,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The mother's tears 
Dialogue: 0,1:33:27.10,1:33:32.77,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}or the last goodbyes of the suspect you take from his family's embrace... 
Dialogue: 0,1:33:34.57,1:33:38.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It's not easy. You see the family suffering,
Dialogue: 0,1:33:38.41,1:33:42.29,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}those difficult moments between parents and children,
Dialogue: 0,1:33:42.37,1:33:43.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}between children and parents.
Dialogue: 0,1:33:46.12,1:33:51.21,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}These moments end up etched deep inside you
Dialogue: 0,1:33:51.38,1:33:56.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}and when you retire you become a bit of a leftist.
Dialogue: 0,1:34:20.49,1:34:26.16,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We are making the lives of millions unbearable,
Dialogue: 0,1:34:26.25,1:34:28.54,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}into prolonged human suffering.
Dialogue: 0,1:34:29.17,1:34:33.42,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We leave the decision about what's appropriate
Dialogue: 0,1:34:33.75,1:34:37.71,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}to a soldier who's spent a few months in the army.
Dialogue: 0,1:34:38.26,1:34:42.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}A year earlier he finished high school, at best.
Dialogue: 0,1:34:42.93,1:34:45.89,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}He's standing there facing a father holding his baby girl
Dialogue: 0,1:34:45.97,1:34:51.68,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}deciding, does he search him or not, does he let him pass or not.
Dialogue: 0,1:34:53.36,1:34:55.07,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It kills me.
Dialogue: 0,1:34:56.36,1:35:00.03,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The future is bleak. It's dark, the future.
Dialogue: 0,1:35:00.11,1:35:05.95,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Where does it lead? To a change in the people's character
Dialogue: 0,1:35:06.04,1:35:13.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}because if you put most of our young people in the army,
Dialogue: 0,1:35:13.88,1:35:18.80,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}they'll see a paradox.
Dialogue: 0,1:35:18.88,1:35:24.84,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}They'll see that it strives to be a people's army,
Dialogue: 0,1:35:24.93,1:35:29.10,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}like the Nahal unit, involved in building up the country.
Dialogue: 0,1:35:29.18,1:35:32.06,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}On the other hand, it's a brutal occupation force,
Dialogue: 0,1:35:32.14,1:35:35.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}similar to the Germans in World War ll.
Dialogue: 0,1:35:36.90,1:35:39.36,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Similar, not identical.
Dialogue: 0,1:35:40.57,1:35:44.07,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}And I'm not talking about their behavior toward the Jews.
Dialogue: 0,1:35:44.16,1:35:48.25,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}That was exceptional, with its own particular characteristics.
Dialogue: 0,1:35:48.33,1:35:53.75,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I mean how they acted to the Poles, the Belgians, the Dutch...
Dialogue: 0,1:35:55.63,1:35:57.67,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}To all of them... The Czechs.
Dialogue: 0,1:35:59.00,1:36:05.17,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}It's a very negative trait that we acquired,
Dialogue: 0,1:36:05.85,1:36:11.86,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}to be... I'm afraid to say it, so I won't.
Dialogue: 0,1:36:12.81,1:36:18.36,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}We've become cruel,
Dialogue: 0,1:36:18.98,1:36:20.73,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}to ourselves as well,
Dialogue: 0,1:36:20.82,1:36:25.45,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}but mainly to the occupied population,
Dialogue: 0,1:36:28.99,1:36:32.83,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}using the excuse of the war against terror.
Dialogue: 0,1:36:33.16,1:36:36.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Clausewitz, who was wise even though he wasn't Jewish,
Dialogue: 0,1:36:37.13,1:36:40.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}or at least we haven't discovered his Jewish roots,
Dialogue: 0,1:36:42.21,1:36:44.21,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}said almost 200 years ago...
Dialogue: 0,1:36:44.72,1:36:48.89,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I'm translating, but the essence of what he said is,
Dialogue: 0,1:36:50.22,1:36:55.35,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}"Victory is simply the creation of a better political reality."
Dialogue: 0,1:36:55.90,1:36:56.86,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}That's victory.
Dialogue: 0,1:36:56.94,1:37:01.90,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Victory doesn't dictate that we have to conquer Gaza
Dialogue: 0,1:37:02.15,1:37:05.07,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}or Ramallah or Nablus or Hebron.
Dialogue: 0,1:37:05.74,1:37:10.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}I think my son, who served for three years in the paratroopers,
Dialogue: 0,1:37:10.87,1:37:15.58,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}participated in the conquest of Nablus at least two or three times.
Dialogue: 0,1:37:17.58,1:37:21.33,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Did it bring us victory? I don't think so.
Dialogue: 0,1:37:22.59,1:37:28.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}Did it create a better political reality?
Dialogue: 0,1:37:30.22,1:37:34.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}The tragedy of Israel's public security debate
Dialogue: 0,1:37:34.81,1:37:40.23,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}is that we don't realize that we face a frustrating situation
Dialogue: 0,1:37:40.44,1:37:42.94,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}in which we win every battle,
Dialogue: 0,1:37:43.15,1:37:45.11,Default,,0,0,0,,{\shad3\ang150}but we lose the war.